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July 24, 2006

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bob

Actually, Foucault uses exactly this phrase as the title of the first section of the first volume of his History of Sexuality. He acknowledges that he took it from Marcus.

bob

I should explain that Foucault uses the phrase "We other Victorians" to mean us, the heirs of Victorianism, not the disreputable Victorians Marcus studied.

Miriam

Yeah, I remember that Foucault acknowledges that he got the phrase from Marcus, which is partly why I'm "distracted"--a) Marcus' book is still quite famous, and b) Foucault identifies his allusion's source. It's a doubly bizarre mistake.

Jonathan

Isn't it, per Bob's explanation, a different sense and thus not a mistake?

Vance Maverick

Standing around with the other parents of toddlers at a San Francisco playground this weekend, I saw a woman with a T-shirt from one of our best-known bakeries. On the back was printed "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker -- Willy Wonka." This isn't wrong, but it isn't right either. I'd expect greater scruple in the august Journal....

degustibus

A woman's not always a woman, but a good cigar is a horse of another feather.
Pogo, or Walt Kelley or....

Mark Proudman

As Bob and Jonathan point out, I borrowed the usage and the meaning from Foucault, and therefore referred to him. That Marcus used the same combination of two words in another sense is, as has been said, a distraction - the fact is irrelevant to the argument. I make no attempt to survey the uses of the phrase; I see nothing erroneous, let alone bizarre.

But it's good to know someone is reading the JHS,

Cheers,

Mark Proudman

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