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July 24, 2006


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Actually, Foucault uses exactly this phrase as the title of the first section of the first volume of his History of Sexuality. He acknowledges that he took it from Marcus.


I should explain that Foucault uses the phrase "We other Victorians" to mean us, the heirs of Victorianism, not the disreputable Victorians Marcus studied.


Yeah, I remember that Foucault acknowledges that he got the phrase from Marcus, which is partly why I'm "distracted"--a) Marcus' book is still quite famous, and b) Foucault identifies his allusion's source. It's a doubly bizarre mistake.


Isn't it, per Bob's explanation, a different sense and thus not a mistake?

Vance Maverick

Standing around with the other parents of toddlers at a San Francisco playground this weekend, I saw a woman with a T-shirt from one of our best-known bakeries. On the back was printed "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker -- Willy Wonka." This isn't wrong, but it isn't right either. I'd expect greater scruple in the august Journal....


A woman's not always a woman, but a good cigar is a horse of another feather.
Pogo, or Walt Kelley or....

Mark Proudman

As Bob and Jonathan point out, I borrowed the usage and the meaning from Foucault, and therefore referred to him. That Marcus used the same combination of two words in another sense is, as has been said, a distraction - the fact is irrelevant to the argument. I make no attempt to survey the uses of the phrase; I see nothing erroneous, let alone bizarre.

But it's good to know someone is reading the JHS,


Mark Proudman

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