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December 08, 2007

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Sherman Dorn

Okay, I'll bite. What does VWSISLCCL stand for: Victorian With Slippers In Strange Locations 'Cause Cats Loaf?

Miriam

Hey, my cats don't loaf. They're v. Victorian and therefore addicted to Duty and Moral Striving.

"VWSISLCCL" stands for "Victorianist who specializes in subjects like Christian controversial literature."

Noadi

The funny part of that is that those are the terms the books use, they rarely use the words God or church. I wonder if it's selective memory on the parts of people who wished the movie was more overtly anti-religious. However considering the ultimate fate of the Authority in the series I think any protestant overtones won't last far into the second and third movies when they are released.

Giles

"[...] the nasty guy with the beetle daemon is Fra (Father) Pavel"
 
I thought Fra means "Brother" and there is surely a hierarchic difference between "Brother" and "Father" but maybe it's not important.

Miriam

Giles: Oops, mental slip there. Fixed.

Noadi: Yes, if the next two get made, any inadvertent Protestantism will take a hike, I'm sure.

Marvin

It seems to me that the Protestantism in the film is very much present in the books, which are essentially a retelling/reframing of Paradise Lost, after all. Protestantism is a first step away from Catholicism -- the journey for Pullman just needs to continue on to philosophical naturalism. The Protestant critique of Catholic legalism and superstition is sound; but it is insufficient to reach to the truth of things.

Sam C

I wonder if there's a connection to be made between the film's 'accidental protestantism' and Pullman's self-identification as a 'church of england atheist'?

amk

CBC Radio's "Writers and Company" had a lengthy interview with Pullman in which he discusses his admiration for "Paradise Lost" in detail -- he had a teacher who insisted that the poem be read aloud -- and his beloved Anglican grandfather. There's also some discussion of his attitude toward Tolkien and Lewis.

Smithereens

I didn't watch the movie but one observation strikes me as very true: why do bad guys never wash their hair? Maybe it's a Victorian concept (cleanliness and godliness thing) but it is quite pervasive in TV/movies. I wonder if the director tells the actor: don't bother to wash your hair for the next 2 weeks, you're playing the baddie?

Jonathan

Though I haven't finished the books, I wonder very much how the "Calvin was pope" angle fits into the present religious controversy.

synapse

Lee Scoresby needs to wash his hair too...

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